New towers for CFUN

[David in North Burnaby]

radiofan

Thanks for the info and the good tip re: 1530, its a little fainter, but without that "piggybacker" sts, well worth turning it up a bit.

[cart_machine]

[quote="Top Dog" quoting Dave Y] The towers are also going to be self support towers instead of guyed towers. This was done to allow for full agricultural production on the site once construction is completed. [/quote]

Great. Before Joe and Jen do their show, they can harvest the kumquats.

cArtie.

[David in North Burnaby]

Mmmm kumquats. You have to luv a fruit whose name sounds like something obscene, doncha?

[jon]

CFUN's new tower location and directional pattern were approved this morning by the CRTC:
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decis ... 08-283.htm

No interventions, so nothing much said, except reiterating:
The Commission notes that changing the transmitter site will result in a decrease in the coverage in the principal marketing area and consequently in a decrease in reached population of approximately 574,000 people.

And:
The licensee advised that the existing transmitter is deteriorated to the point that the station is unable to prove its antenna pattern.

[Jack Bennest]

Broadcasting Decision CRTC 2008-283
Ottawa, 10 October 2008
CTV Limited
Vancouver, British Columbia
Application 2008-1011-0, received 23 July 2008
Broadcasting Public Notice CRTC 2008-71
14 August 2008
CFUN Vancouver – Technical change
1.
The Commission approves the application by CTV Limited to change the authorized contours of the radio programming undertaking CFUN Vancouver by relocating to a new transmitter site approximately eight kilometres south-east of the current transmitter site. The implementation of this technical change is subject to the notification by the Department of Industry (the Department) discussed in paragraph 5 below.
2.
The licensee advised that the existing transmitter is deteriorated to the point that the station is unable to prove its antenna pattern.
3.
The Commission notes that changing the transmitter site will result in a decrease in the coverage in the principal marketing area and consequently in a decrease in reached population of approximately 574,000 people.
4.
The Commission did not receive any interventions in connection with this application.
Condition prior to the implementation of the transmitter
5.
The Commission reminds the licensee that pursuant to section 22(1) of the Broadcasting Act, this authority will only be effective when the Department notifies the Commission that its technical requirements have been met and that a broadcasting certificate will be issued. Therefore, in the absence of the notification by the Department, the licensee will not be able to implement the transmitter approved in this decision.
Secretary General
This decision is to be appended to the licence. It is available in alternative format upon request and may also be examined in PDF format or in HTML at the following Internet site: http://www.crtc.gc.ca.



my question is - why didnt they apply for fm - CFUN had such a great signal years ago - have not tried to get a radio to listen to it at night
here like I did as a child. Shall try it if every out that late.

[radiofan]

my question is - why didnt they apply for fm - CFUN had such a great signal years ago - have not tried to get a radio to listen to it at night
here like I did as a child. Shall try it if every out that late.

There are no FM frequencies left in the Vancouver area.

There is nothing wrong with CFUN's signal now. It is still as great as it was back in the 60's and 70's when all you'd hear each evening in A&W parking lots in Edmonton, Red Deer, Calgary etc etc was CFUN blaring for car radios.

Going across the AM dial in Edmonton a few weeks ago, the dominant out of area signals were KIRO, KOMO, CKWX and CFUN. All four were like locals or semi locals in the evening and early morning.

This issue with CFUN's move isn't coverage or lack of, it's all a $ thing. CTV is combining the tower sites for CFUN and CKST to a smaller chunk of property than either occupies now. They will then have two large acreages to sell at a huge profit.

[skyvalleyradio]

C-FUN should have gone after 600 - the facilities site change would have been a good time to do this as the new antennas could be tuned to 600 kHz. However, I agree with radiofan that there's nothing wrong with the coverage on 1410. I remember as a kid travelling with my family in the 60's to visit relatives in Sask. DXing C-FUN and even on a cheap kid's radio, they always seemed to have a killer signal at night. Thinking back, this would have probably been after their power increase

[jon]

Yes, when I moved here (Edmonton) in 1975, to work for the University of Alberta, a lot of the students listened to CFUN at night.

In the mid- to late 1980s, I worked at home some of those years, and CFUN had a good solid signal all day long in the winter months, on a garden variety AM receiver. Which surprised me at the time, as I had spent a couple of winters in Burnaby in the late 1960s doing "Daytime DX", where the rules were "log as many stations as you can from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. Pacific Standard Time". And not once did I ever get anything over the Rockies, even with the DX quality receiver and antenna I had, in a relatively RF quiet area of Burnaby.

Even on the crummiest car radios, CFUN has been excellent listening quality anytime after dark most nights of the year here. I especially remember Fred Latrimouille doing his morning show live from China with a lot of listeners who had won a trip with him. And Steve Burgess doing his last show on K-Lite (CKRA-FM Edmonton) and showing up a day or two later, doing evenings on CFUN, on the car radio.

[Aaron]

my question is - why didnt they apply for fm - CFUN had such a great signal years ago - have not tried to get a radio to listen to it at night
here like I did as a child. Shall try it if every out that late.

There are no FM frequencies left in the Vancouver area.

Even if there were, CTV is at its maximum of 2 FMs.

[GrumpyOldMan]

I guess the true radio geeks can appreciate a thread on new towers for a radio station.

But in this case, it's CFUN...the most poorly programmed station in the market. They have a morning show that doesn't want to follow the plan and do "their own thing" (ie the same show everyday) and a PD who wouldn't be able to get a job managing a small market radio station.

Putting up a new tower for CFUN is akin to the Titanic deck chairs being reshuffled.