Larry and Willy - what's the deal?

[hagopian]

Larry and Willy - abrupt vacation?

Terry Chan sitting in.

What's the deal?

Anyone know the scoop?

[Howaboutthat]

What is wrong with some people?

You see a post on another site posing the same stupid question and rush to be the first to stamp it somewhere else!

It's freaking summer!!!

People take vacations!!!

The fill in guy even said he was filling in!!!

Why is is abrupt???

Perhaps one of them had a reservation somewhere starting in the middle of the week!!!

Geeeezz!!!

[kat]

Hey hagopian are you bored with the retired life? Bored out of your gourd with nothing to do?

Might I suggest you apply to the National Inquirer for some work as a headline writer. Last week it was Chuck McCoy OUT at Rogers and now this week it's Larry & Willy.

Did you ever think to check the website? They are still there. All over the site. Check youir facts baby.

I'd suspect dreamed up headlines are the only premature problem that plagues you.

[Jack Bennest]

I'd suspect dreamed up headlines are the only premature problem that plagues you.

Bad Kittie , Bad Kittie

ps Should the word NOT be inserted after area....NOT....the only??

[whenindoubt]

I don't think anyone wants to pay Larry & Willy to sit and do nothing. lol

[kat]

I'd suspect dreamed up headlines are the only premature problem that plagues you.

Bad Kittie , Bad Kittie

ps Should the word NOT be inserted after area....NOT....the only??

Thanks Doggie. I guess my spell checking skills aren't quite up there with haggie-poohs yet, so the Enquirer will never call me.

[dial twister]

It seems everyone in town who's somehow connected to the radio biz has a Larry and Willy theory, and several claim to know the real goods but have been sworn to secrecay.

Let's look at the facts. Jack FM is nowhere near the powerhouse it was when Larry and Willy came on board in 2003. Jack is in desperate need of a re-fit, whether it be some fine tuning, or a total
ground up rebuild like Rogers did when they blew up 97 Kiss FM and got rid of the overpaid liner card reading no personality on air staff. A million dollar plus morning show is hard to justify when the
numbers aren't anywhere near what they were when the contract was first written up. I believe the current L&W contract still has a little over a year to go.

Jack and Larry and Willy have had a good 9 year plus run. Sister station Sonic 104.9 is about to launch their new million dollar morning show, so cash must be tight at 2440. I hear some sales people
were at the receiving end of some pink slips this past week. If Lary and Willy being absent is a protest about Rogers terminating thier newsman, I think they'd better get over themselves real fast and
get back to work. Nine years ago at Corus, they had some bargaining power. Today there is none. There are no options in this market. The L&W schtick is way past it's best before date and the boys
are lucky there is a contract in place.

It's sad to say, but Larry and Willy are to Jack FM what Roberto Luongo is to the Canucks.

I think we'll be hearing about a mutual decision (a payout) this week and by PNE time CKLG will become the on air name for 96.9 FM and Vancouver will again have a Classic Hits/Oldies station.

[slowhand]

I think we'll be hearing about a mutual decision (a payout) this week and by PNE time CKLG will become the on air name for 96.9 FM and Vancouver will again have a Classic Hits/Oldies station.

These things are always hard to predict given the likelihood that the decision will be made in downtown Toronto by some guy listening to nothing but CHFI.

The status quo or a dumb decision from Toronto are probably the most likely scenarios come September. Other than that, I would put my money on Sonic moving to 96.9 where it has a chance of competing in the tough battle for the youth market. Kids likely have little understanding or patience with the required Fraser Valley local nonsense that 104.9 has to air to keep their license.

Will we see a cheaper version of Jack on 104.9 and the Fraser Valley sticks that follow along with it? Or will they start backfeeding Trading Post type local programming from the valley? It sounds silly until you think about the large number of Valley commuters. Other stations have developed their one horse town citizens into listeners who soon want to listen to their local station as they drive to and from work in the big city of 100,000 population down the road and out of range of the peanut whistle stick.

All bets are off though. The big unknown is Rogers part in the fire sale on FM licenses that almost certainly will happen when Bell gets approval to buy Astral. I don't think 104.9 counts as a Vancouver station which means Rogers could buy one of whatever Bell or Astral FM licenses go on the auction block.

[radiofan]

Not only would moving Sonic down the dial to 96.9 allow them to be a truly Vancouver station without the Chilliwack and Valley "news", (and all the CRTC hoops that go with it) it would also put them closer to the competition. The three Top 40/Hot A/C stations would basically be side by side (94.5, 95.3 and 96.9)

Relaunching Sonic with the new Morning show and a new spot on the dial makes sense.

[Russ_Byth]

Relaunching Sonic with the new Morning show and a new spot on the dial makes sense.

Also makes one wonder - as the Sonic brand hasn't exactly set the ratings book on fire in Vancouver, if a new brand would come as well?

[flyonthewall]

Lunch today was at Wendy's on Cambie & 8th in Vancouver. While I was enjoying my Ultimate Chicken Grill and Strawberry Shortcake Frosty Parfait my ears perked up as I heard some mention of
Larry and Willy from a few tables away. From what I could pick up, the station had no right to dismiss Kerry Marshall. Larry and Willy have total control of their show, who stays, who goes etc. By
terminating Marshall, Rogers broke that contract, so Larry and Willy are sitting things out.

How long will it take to sort things out is anyone's guess. Who was the pinhead that breached the contract? Was it someone local or someone in TO?

As they say, stay tuned for more on this developing story.

[Mike Cleaver]

Plenty of "pinheads' in both locations.

[Big Voice]

Are L&W so delusionary they believe they swing that much weight?
I'm afraid those days are long gone for these two.
Better hurry back to work boys, ya hear?

[tuned]

If Rogers is in breach of contract good for L&W calling them on it and hitting the beach. Ever try and get out of a Rogers cel phone contract? They'll hound you to your grave over it.

[Mike Cleaver]

Bigvoice: Did you not read the word "contract?"
It's an iron clad legal document.
And I'm certain both sides had top notch lawyers drafting it.
If my information is correct, the boys have about a year left to run on the current one.
IF they have ultimate control over their show as per their contract (similar to the one Frosty had at 'NW,) that means they do call the shots as to who is on air with them.
If Rogers violated that contract by firing a member of their show, L & W are justified in retaliating.
I'm pretty certain they know they won't get the same deal, if any, when the current contract expires due to Rogers penchant for cutting any expense over 10 dollars and the slipping ratings for JACK.
There are some very clueless people in management on Ash but there are a lot in head office as well.