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Postby Cliff Bashly Kinkade » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:13 am

Marke Driesschen wrote: Dude, I'm one of those slapheads who wears the home team jersey too-although I'm the furtherst thing from blow-dried as you can get.  Plus, I make sure my collars are tucked in.

LMAO! Thanks for clearing that up for me.

And thanks for the tip on the Flames, but I actually wish they had been sold a few years back, so win or lose it's all "meh", as far as I'm concerned.
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Postby glaherty » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:24 pm

I am certainly not blow dried, but I have never entirely gotten the "jersey
wearing" thing, it seems a little wannabe and fraternal to me. Growing up as
a Very staunch hockey fan in the 60's, I listened intently to Canucks Western
League games with Jim Robson at the mike, I followed the team, enjoyed hockey,
went to quite a few games, but never, ever felt like I was "part of the team". They
were the players, I was a guy who watched the games, it never occured to fans
in those days, to wear the jersey of the team. That was reserved for the guys
actually PLAYING. Like so many things that have changed about the game,
most of them courtesy of the Americanization, now it's not only common, it's
almost mandatory. Same with painting your face, it's like the Seinfeld episode,
where Puddy says "gotta support the team babe". That just seems goofy to me.
Cheer when they score, sure. Honk your horn for hours when they win
a first round game, well I dunno about that. Other than a Leafs jersey I got
one Christmas when I was about 7, (in the days of the 6 team league), I have
NEVER worn a hockey jersey, without also having pads and skates on. That's
just me though, serve it up. It could also come from having watched, covered,
and played in several thousand hockey games at various levels. Some of the
newbie fans of this era, I have trouble getting,(is there more of a juvenile blackhole than parts of the Canucks.com forum???) but they'd just tell
me to hop on my dinosaur, and go watch vintage games. Go Canucks go, though,
it has been a magical year in terms of winning the close ones, Luongo has them
up 3-1, and looking like they're ready for a run. Anybody got his jersey?

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Postby Cliff Bashly Kinkade » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:28 pm

glaherty - I've heard that fans who dare not wear a jersey to the Saddledome have actually been questioned about their "loyalty". What a bunch of sheep in this city.
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Postby glaherty » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:43 pm

I know times change, and often for the better, but just to illustrate this point,
I'm looking at an action shot of a game between Toronto and Detroit looks like
circa 1965 or 66, and you can see pretty clearly about 30 or so of the fans
in the first three or four rows, watching Gordie Howe battle Tim Horton for
a loose puck in front of Terry Sawchuck, while Marcel Pronovost ties up
Alex Delvecchio. Take a wild guess as to how many of those 30 or more
spectators are wearing a hockey jersey. If you guessed ZERO, nada, none,
you would be spot on. Doesn't mean it's better, it just shows how different
it was. Why weren't they wearing a jersey, because they would have been
looked at like they were from Mars, and ridiculed; "Whaddare YOU playing tonight,
you clown....etc...) Maybe this era is better, more fun, more intense fans,
but I dunno, trying to compare any eras in sports,is never easy.
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Postby Cliff Bashly Kinkade » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:13 pm

Absolutely the eras were different. Despite this generation's boosting of individuality and lack of conformity, there as never been an age more devoted to cookie-cutter banality. This is seen in the media and sports.
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Postby glaherty » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:41 pm

By the way, as for the original topic of this thread, is sports news, I think
the answer is yes. When it is something that large portions of your audience
are interested in and respond to, it does become a news event. That said,
we in sports, call this "the silly season", where all the news crews run around
looking for various features connected to hockey, it's been going on for 10-15 years, not just this year.

Oh and also isn't publishing those pictures of that sick Fuc* at Virginia Tech,exactly
what he would have wanted!? We are heading unfortunately for a day when
you need metal detectors and beefed up security at schools, malls etc. That
boy definitely seemed like somebody you should sell a couple of handguns to,
didn't he?
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Postby FormerLady1130 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:01 pm

Going back to the excitment of the Canucks and fan support... I'd be interested to hear your opinions on this little ditty...

My mother has a flag pole in front of her house -- high above, flies the Canadian flag. Excited about the Canucks, my brother hoisted up a Canuck flag under the Canadian flag on Tuesday morning. By afternoon, there was a knock on the door. It was an RCMP officer who informed my mom that the Canuck flag could not fly on the same pole -- it had to be on a pole of its own.
When I heard the story, my first reaction was - there's a fine example of our taxpayer dollars at work. :rolleyes:

Your thoughts?

(Some might argue, it's a sign of disrespect to fly a Canuck flag with the Canadian flag... I can tell you, no disrespect meant from a woman who immigrated to this country and is proud to be a part of it. You have to wonder how many "Canadian borns" would even know the proper etiquette of how to fly the flag.)
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Postby glaherty » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:25 pm

Don't know about that, but the horn honking thing is not as it was
originally portrayed, i.e. those cops won't let us honk our horns on Robson,
they do let the fans honk, for hours after the game, they just don't want it
continuing into the middle of the night when some people might be interested
more in resting than partying.
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Postby Mike Cleaver » Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:25 am

If you grew up in a military family as I did, you'd know all about protocol.
And in the early days of news, mid last century, news directors drummed protocol into staff members who dared to go against the rules, such as talking over the National Anthem.
It was knowing things about half-mast as opposed to half-staff, Loo-tenant as opposed to Left- tenant.
It's basically showing respect for tradition.
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Postby cart_machine » Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:25 am

Mike Cleaver wrote: If you grew up in a military family as I did, you'd know all about protocol.

Military? You mean the "don't ask, don't tell" people? ;)

I'm so pleased that gangs are a thing or the past, that morons are no longer cutting me off in traffic, that evil-doers are vanquished in this Vancouver of ours that police have nothing else to do than wander over to homes and give lessons on flag-waving. (I'm with you, Former Lady1130. Just don't threaten to kiss me).

There are times when "protocol" is just an official word for "nit-picking" and means nothing except to those who thrive on such things.

There was a protocol at one time you sang the National Anthem at the movie theatre. Let me know if anyone does that before Jackass 3.

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Postby Jack Bennest » Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:18 am

could the avatar for mike be changed to a Loo tenant - that dog is giving me a headache

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Postby glaherty » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:27 am

More to come of hockey all over the newscasts Stn Brk, brace yourself.
Thank Roberto Luongo, Trevor Linden, Henrik Sedin,et al for it, maybe give a wink
to Rob Shick and Brad Watson too. ;) Also thank Sergei Zubov's abdomen,
and the crossbar.
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Postby Cliff Bashly Kinkade » Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:41 pm

So how long before Vancouver introduces its version of the RED MILE CRAZE! It dominated news here last year, and in Edmonton with their "whyte mile" BS. I know that Van is a more cosmopolitan city but some lazy news director will try to lean on this "legacy".

Let the flashing begin.
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