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SOPA (and PIPA)

Postby Tape Splicer » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:51 pm

While "googling" Wikipedia to look something up I saw a link for "News for Wikipedia" - Here is what the news report says. from Reuters...
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"Wikipedia to Shut Down in Protest of SOPA"

By Lucas Shaw at TheWrap

Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:58pm EST


Wikipedia will shut down for 24 hours Wednesday to protest the Stop Online Piracy Act, founder Jimmy Wales announced on Monday.

In doing so, Wikipedia joins a long list of web companies such as Reddit and Mozilla that are taking similar measures against the proposed legislation.

Wales used his Twitter account to spread the news, writing “Student warning! Do your homework early. Wikipedia protesting bad law on Wednesday! #sopa”

In place of Wikipedia, users will see instructions for how to reach local members of Congress, which Wales hopes "will melt phone systems in Washington."

He also noted that comScore estimates the English Wikipedia’s web traffic at 25 million daily visitors worldwide.

Also Read: MPAA: It's Time to Stop Obstruction on Anti-Piracy Legislation (Updated)

The White House issued a warning Saturday about SOPA, as well as related legislation such as the Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA) and the Online Protection and Digital Enforcement Act (OPEN), which would give the government and content companies more power to police the unlawful promulgation of their intellectual property.

It insisted any effort to combat online piracy “must guard against the risk of online censorship of lawful activity and must not inhibit innovation by our dynamic businesses large and small.”

The Motion Picture Association of America was conciliatory -- but firm -- in its response to the White House's statement.

"We welcome the Administration's clear statement that legislation is needed to stop foreign based thieves from stealing the hard work and creativity of millions of American workers," the MPAA said, in a statement prepared by Michael O’Leary, Senior Executive Vice President for Global Policy and External Affairs for the MPAA.
Related Articles: MPAA: It's Time to Stop Obstruction on Anti-Piracy Legislation (Updated) MPAA's Point-Man on Anti-Piracy Legislation Blames Google for Controversy
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Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down in Protest of SOPA(REUTERS)

Postby Paul P » Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:08 pm

Sure it's all about SOPA. ;-)

They've been begging for money for months. I predict more 'shutdowns' in the weeks and months to come to try and show Interwebers how much they 'rely' on Wiki.
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Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down in Protest of SOPA(REUTERS)

Postby PMC » Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:00 pm

Paul P wrote:Sure it's all about SOPA. ;-)

They've been begging for money for months. I predict more 'shutdowns' in the weeks and months to come to try and show Interwebers how much they 'rely' on Wiki.


It is about SOPA ! The u.s. government is allowing capitalism to create a police state in a network environment...a polite phrase for network fascism.

The entertainment industry believes it has a right to turn off your internet connection. The biggest lie told by America is they believe in democracy, when in fact they practice otherwise, and proving hypocrasy is the rule of the day.
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Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down in Protest of SOPA(REUTERS)

Postby Howaboutthat » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:45 pm

PMC wrote:
Paul P wrote:Sure it's all about SOPA. ;-)

They've been begging for money for months. I predict more 'shutdowns' in the weeks and months to come to try and show Interwebers how much they 'rely' on Wiki.


It is about SOPA ! The u.s. government is allowing capitalism to create a police state in a network environment...a polite phrase for network fascism.

The entertainment industry believes it has a right to turn off your internet connection. The biggest lie told by America is they believe in democracy, when in fact they practice otherwise, and proving hypocrasy is the rule of the day.


This rant ("police state" - give me a break) brought to you by the G.O.P. (free enterprise is good, except if you're Mitt Romney) and FOX News (if it's not our way, it's bad for America)

From Politico:
And where President Barack Obama comes down has been closely watched — because of his image as a technology guy, someone who harnessed the Web and young Internet users to win the presidency.

The administration did not take a definitive position on SOPA or PIPA on Saturday. But it was clear that the White House — while calling pirated movies and knockoff pharmaceuticals on the Web "a real problem" in need of a legislative solution — isn't enamored of either bill.

"While we believe that online piracy by foreign websites is a serious problem that requires a serious legislative response, we will not support legislation that reduces freedom of expression, increases cybersecurity risk, or undermines the dynamic, innovative global Internet," the administration officials said. "Any effort to combat online piracy must guard against the risk of online censorship of lawful activity and must not inhibit innovation by our dynamic businesses large and small. "
Houston, We're dealing with morons!.
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Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down in Protest of SOPA(REUTERS)

Postby PMC » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:58 pm

In a surprise move today, Representative Eric Cantor(R-VA) announced that he will stop all action on SOPA, effectively killing the bill. This move was most likely due to several things. One of those things is that SOPA and PIPA met huge online protest against the bills. Another reason would be that the White House threatened to veto the bill if it had passed. However, it isn't quite time yet to celebrate, as PIPA(the Senate's version of SOPA) is still up for consideration.

The online protests about the bill were surprising and large. They ranged anywhere from callng Representatives, companies, and senators to get them to change their mind, to actively moving domain's away from and targeting the business model of the companies that supported/lobbied for the bill. GoDaddy lost well over 100,000 domains in the space of about 10 days due to their involvement with these bills, along with other various targets. Reddit in particular has been influential in turning the tide against SOPA and PIPA, and is a good demonstration of how the Internet enables Democracy.

PIPA is less well known than SOPA, but the provisions are basicly the same. It still includes the same DNS blocking and censoring system that the original SOPA did, just without the SOPA name. There are around 40 co-sponsors of the bill in the Senate so far, with no word on how many senators support the bill in addition to that. There will most likely need to be 60 votes in the Senate in order to invoke cloture and end an almost guaranteed filibuster.

Continue reading on Examiner.com House Kills SOPA - Denver Computers | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/computers-in-de ... z1jfHU4xfN
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Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down in Protest of SOPA(REUTERS)

Postby TRENT310 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:32 am

It wasn't a real shutdown since the content was still behind the javascript overlay... but it did raise awareness which is the point. The rest of us just took out the JS and continued using Wikipedia as usual.
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Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down in Protest of SOPA(REUTERS)

Postby PMC » Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:33 pm

This is a link to a BBC piece. The site Megaupload is the target.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16642369

The last paragraph I have clipped below, because that is what should be stated to all concerned.

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"It begs the question that if you can find and arrest people who are suspected to be involved in piracy using existing laws, then why introduce further regulations which are US-only and potentially damaging."
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Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down in Protest of SOPA(REUTERS)

Postby jon » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:01 pm

This is quite a well thought out piece. Thanks to PMC for bringing it to my attention:

RFS 9: Kill Hollywood

Hollywood appears to have peaked. If it were an ordinary industry (film cameras, say, or typewriters), it could look forward to a couple decades of peaceful decline. But this is not an ordinary industry. The people who run it are so mean and so politically connected that they could do a lot of damage to civil liberties and the world economy on the way down. It would therefore be a good thing if competitors hastened their demise.

That's one reason we want to fund startups that will compete with movies and TV, but not the main reason. The main reason we want to fund such startups is not to protect the world from more SOPAs, but because SOPA brought it to our attention that Hollywood is dying. They must be dying if they're resorting to such tactics. If movies and TV were growing rapidly, that growth would take up all their attention. When a striker is fouled in the penalty area, he doesn't stop as long as he still has control of the ball; it's only when he's beaten that he turns to appeal to the ref. SOPA shows Hollywood is beaten. And yet the audiences to be captured from movies and TV are still huge. There is a lot of potential energy to be liberated there.

How do you kill the movie and TV industries? Or more precisely (since at this level, technological progress is probably predetermined) what is going to kill them? Mostly not what they like to believe is killing them, filesharing. What's going to kill movies and TV is what's already killing them: better ways to entertain people. So the best way to approach this problem is to ask yourself: what are people going to do for fun in 20 years instead of what they do now?

There will be several answers, ranging from new ways to produce and distribute shows, through new media (e.g. games) that look a lot like shows but are more interactive, to things (e.g. social sites and apps) that have little in common with movies and TV except competing with them for finite audience attention. Some of the best ideas may initially look like they're serving the movie and TV industries. Microsoft seemed like a technology supplier to IBM before eating their lunch, and Google did the same thing to Yahoo.

It would be great if what people did instead of watching shows was exercise more and spend more time with their friends and families. Maybe they will. All other things being equal, we'd prefer to hear about ideas like that. But all other things are decidedly not equal. Whatever people are going to do for fun in 20 years is probably predetermined. Winning is more a matter of discovering it than making it happen. In this respect at least, you can't push history off its course. You can, however, accelerate it.

What's the most entertaining thing you can build?

ref. - http://ycombinator.com/rfs9.html
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Re: SOPA (and PIPA)

Postby PMC » Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:48 pm

Anyone following this, should keep a link to http://www.michaelgeist.ca/ for what is happening in the great white north.

The many dictators of nonsense, to control a phone system, is far from over. Your internet connection has an IP address, and that is the equal to a phone number. Government or business special interests, should not be given the right to control your phone number.
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Re: SOPA (and PIPA)

Postby PMC » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:03 am

Send the message. Net democracy in action...

http://openmedia.ca/lockdown
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Re: SOPA (and PIPA)

Postby PMC » Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:29 pm

February 14th, 2012, the day Canada became a banana republic...it is a sad for democracy.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story ... -bill.html

From a tech point, do a search of `proxy server' and see how this software is used around the world, where oppressive regimes are in government, and then ask if this kind of software will be used to bypass any tracking here. This is legitimate software. Many companies run their own proxy server for web services as example.

I await the constitutional challange, because I want to hear the supreme court judges explain how installing a warrantless police state in a telephone network, improves the democratic process. Eighty thousand people told Industry Canada through `openmedia' this was not acceptable. Several privacy commissioners opposed it. I hope the judges remember these simple facts.
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Re: SOPA (and PIPA)

Postby J Kendrick » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:26 pm

How is Toews's bill not trumped by Section 8 of the Charter?

Section 8: Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.
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Re: SOPA (and PIPA)

Postby hagopian » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:18 pm

Lot of the stuff coming out on ths subject has a distinct parallel....try 1930's Germany. "Papers...always to be carried, so the Gauliter, that just shoved you up against the wall checks to see who you are".
The age of personal freedom is in jeopardy, once your personal firewall is breached.
Do you want the Gov to know where you are all the time....?
They check our e-mail, to make sure we aren't mailing horrid images, but still.

I dunno, but this all gives me the creeps.
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Re: SOPA (and PIPA)

Postby Paul P » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:43 pm

hagopian wrote:Lot of the stuff coming out on ths subject has a distinct parallel....try 1930's Germany. "Papers...always to be carried, so the Gauliter, that just shoved you up against the wall checks to see who you are".


Oh man, here we go.... just like the Republicans in the states. Something you don't like, compare it to Nazi Germany.

THIS IS NOTHING LIKE NAZI GERMANY - and you do a disservice to everyone who REALLY had to SUFFER and fear for their lives!

NOTHING in Canada or the United States today should EVER be compared to Nazi Germany... even eluding to it. Shame!

I certainly oppose this bill as it has first been 'explained' by the usual groups. I will withhold final judgement until I hear some calm and collected explanations of what is and is not, included.
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Re: SOPA (and PIPA)

Postby hagopian » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:39 am

Point Taken.

Let's see what happens.
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